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Katherine Raven
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:12:00 -
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I am questioning the necessity of having outpost construction 3 for the manufacturing level 3 certificate. Living in high sec I will never need outpost construction skills.
This means that with all my tech 2 construction skills optimized I'll never be more than a mediocre manufacturer. I'm sure you can argue in favor of having that skill there, but I don't see how that's a useful suggestion for new players trying to make a living in manufacturing. |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:42:00 -
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I'm also noticing that the resource harvesting certificate, even at mastery 5, does not indicate to new players that tech 2 crystals are useful. Should Mastery 5 in resource harvesting not provide you with maximized resource harvesting skills?
As it stands if someone tells me they have resource mastery 5 and are therefore really good at resource harvesting, I will laugh at them and call them a noob for trusting the certificate system.
I love the style, I love the concept, I love the direction. However I've already found two certificates that, just like before these changes, mislead new players into leveling the wrong skills or not leveling skills they should. |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:46:00 -
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In the Dev Blog there was a brief mention that suggested the possibility of creating corporate certificates. Is it possible that CEO's will be able to create their own certificates visible to members of their corporation as guides for skill progression as required/recommended within the corp?
For instance we fly a very specific mining fit, would we be able to create a certificate so that they will be able to see, without me telling them, all the skills they need to have in order to make the fit work. |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.01 17:56:00 -
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Is there a reason shield tanking mastery 5 only requires tactical shield manipulation 4? Seems inconsistent with the other mastery 5 certificates which seem to want level 5 for everything.
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Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:01:00 -
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Two step wrote:Why not more industrial certificates? Why only one very basic mining certificate?
It would also be helpful to have something like the (bad!) old profession certificates. For example, a wormhole exploration certificate that would have some basic scanning skills plus basic combat skills, as a way of focusing new player's training.
I agree with this, the combat and tanking certificates are very specialized, while if you are working towards being a manufacturer (as a specific example) you will apparently be building literally everything under the sun(s). Maybe break them into a couple certificates that are a little more specialized?
What if I never plan on building tech 3's? You're saying I'm not a good manufacturer unless I can. Even if I never will.
EDIT: Sorry for so many posts, I'm picking things apart and posting as I go. |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.01 18:37:00 -
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Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:Hmm. Could be interesting, I suppose. If only to collect the shinies that I've accrued.
By the way, your title says 'certifcates' at the moment. I assume it should be 'certificates'.
lol I didn't even notice that. I'm sure they'll fix it right away. |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.01 20:57:00 -
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Xindi Kraid wrote:
For example, maxing out the Navigation certificate requires micro jump drive operation, this means to master every ship in the game you need micro jump drive operation V, but there's only a couple of dozen ships that can even use it. It's one thing to have one or two ships require a cert that has one or two skills that aren't applicable, but in this case there's far more ships it doesn't apply to than does. Given that, you probably should tweak things so the specialized skills aren't in the certificate.
This concern also relates to target management which requires you to learn the sensor skills for every race, regardless of what race you fly. This to me suggests that in order to be a good Enyo pilot I also MUST be trained to fly everything else, which to me is not a good plan.
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Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:52:00 -
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Madlof Chev wrote:Re: capital navigation, certificate-wise making a jump from JDC 1 / JFC3 on the level 4 cert to both at level 5 is a touch nuts.
Considering the level 1 cert for capital navigation doesn't even require JDO 1 (wtc?!) you should probably remove level 1, shift levels 2-4 across to 1-3, and insert a new level 4 that sits at a more happy medium.
JFC 4 is a pretty standard place to leave things unless you have nothing better to do, and JDC 4 is acceptable, I guess - but implying a ~level 4~ competence with JDC1/JFC3 is setting people up for a fall.
Of course this isn't like some of the whining about "oh why are the highest level certificates so many level 5 skills", but more about making the jump from comparatively useless at a level 4 cert to superuseful at level 5 without anything inbetween.
edit: a similar thing in the capital remote repair and capital gun certs where you go from TLR/TWR 1 to TLR/TWR 5 on levels 4/5.
seconded. No one will allow you to fly capitals in fleets with less than JDC 4, and JFC 4. And I'm pretty sure most are going to require JDC 5, JFC 4. Getting JDC 5 is pretty critical for life as a cap pilot, especially in null. I agree that lvl 4 should be adjusted to better reflect the skills that will ACTUALLY make you a competent cap pilot. Lvl 3 can be more like the current lvl 4. |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.11 20:51:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:stuff
Awesome, I think that pretty much covered everything I didn't like. I'll try to pick through it with a fine toothed comb and see if I can dig up any other suggestions. |

Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.10.19 18:42:00 -
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Shirolayyn wrote:Will there be player-defined certificates? I think of corporate or alliance ship doctrines who could be planned for and followed using such certificates, which might be useful to determine how many pilots could fly a ship with a defined setup...
Shirolayyn
They've said they want to, but not for Rubicon probably. They do like the idea though.
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Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries Intergalactic Conservation Movement
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Posted - 2013.11.04 17:05:00 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:
Thoughts?
This would make a lot more sense then what it currently is. |
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